October 12, 2017

"All of you Hollywood 'A-list' golden boys are LIARS. We have just begun. #ROSEARMY."


Rose McGowan was on fire on Twitter these last few days...
@benaffleck “GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT” you said that to my face. The press conf I was made to go to after assault. You lie.
... but now: "Rose McGowan Suspended From Twitter After Ben Affleck Tweet" (NYT).
It was not clear which tweets had resulted in the suspension. However, on Tuesday, after Mr. Affleck tweeted that the allegations against Mr. Weinstein “made him sick,” Ms. McGowan called him a liar, saying he had long been aware of what Mr. Weinstein had done.
There's still Instagram:
rosemcgowan TWITTER HAS SUSPENDED ME. THERE ARE POWERFUL FORCES AT WORK. BE MY VOICE. #ROSEARMY
By suspending her, Twitter created evidence that confirms suspicions that there is a conspiracy of silence surrounding the people who enabled Harvey Weinstein. The evidence — suspending McGowan — can be interpreted in different ways. It might be that Twitter has neutral rules and would suspend anybody who attacks anybody as specifically and severely as Rose McGowan attacked Ben Affleck, but I think Twitter is foolish to take down Rose McGowan, when it lets President Trump take his shots.

Here's what Twitter PublicPolicy said about not censoring Trump's tweeted attacks on Kim Jong-Un:
We hold all accounts to the same Rules, and consider a number of factors when assessing whether Tweets violate our Rules

Among the considerations is "newsworthiness" and whether a Tweet is of public interest

This has long been internal policy and we'll soon update our public-facing rules to reflect it. We need to do better on this, and will 

Twitter is committed to transparency and keeping people informed about what's happening in the world

We’ll continue to be guided by these fundamental principles
So, the same rules for everybody includes a rule with an exception: newsworthiness.

The system of facilitating and protecting Harvey Weinstein is newsworthy, and Rose McGowan has personal experience and passionate energy giving something important to those of us who read and comment on Twitter.

If you don't apply your exceptions in a neutral fashion, they're not exceptions. They're loopholes.

ADDED: Right now, Rose McGowan's Twitter is working for me. And — for balance — here's Ben Affleck's Twitter feed. The top post is:
I acted inappropriately toward Ms. Burton and I sincerely apologize
The above-linked NYT story does not mention "Ms. Burton."

You can get more background on Burton — Hilarie Burton — in this Daily Mail piece: "'I would also love to get an apology from Ben Affleck': Makeup artist now claims Batman star and Weinstein protégé 'grabbed my a**' at a Golden Globes party' in 2014/Makeup artist, Annamarie Tendler, claims Ben Affleck 'grabbed her a**' in 2014/Tendler said she was attending a Golden Globes party when incident happened/She demanded Affleck apologize for 'pressing his finger in her crack' on Twitter/Affleck recently apologized for groping Hilarie Burton on TRL in 2003/Burton tweeted about the incident in light of Weinstein sex abuse scandal/She wrote 'I didn't forget' on Twitter & said she was forced to 'laugh' off incident/Affleck, who is currently in rehab for alcohol addiction, admitted his 'inappropriate' behavior and apologized to the actress on Twitter/It came hours after Affleck said he was 'saddened and angry' over 'sickening claims' of sexual assault made against his benefactor Weinstein/He was slammed by many, specifically Rose McGowan, who called him a liar."

81 comments:

Bob Ellison said...

She's trying to "own the story".

sparrow said...

Twitter also banned Marsha Blackburn for prolife comments. No cruel neutrality there.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Twitter: White Supremacist Male Progressives.

Eric said...

I think that the silence about Weinstein may not be so much about who knew what about him, but who knows what about others and the floodgates may be giving way.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

I had no idea Twitter was owned by NBC.

sparrow said...

FYI Twitter reversed their decision on Blackburn. Their policy is in flux

Ralph L said...

Banned by Twitter is like Banned in Boston. Free publicity and a "badge of honor."

exhelodrvr1 said...

"I think that the silence about Weinstein may not be so much about who knew what about him, but who knows what about others and the floodgates may be giving way."

Don't worry - somewhere there is a little boy with his finger in the dike holding everything back.

traditionalguy said...

I warned everybody about Rose. She is Scots Irish, and like a female DaTrump, she will never surrender. And if we call her names such as "boisterous", or "bombastic", or "non-feminine, "she will take them as compliments.

ddh said...

Twitter's actions make me wonder, what bad deeds have Twitter executives committed, and how did Harvey Weinstein find out?

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

All the idiots in leftwinger Hillarywoodland are whining about "But Trump too!"
zero mention of the actual brother from another mother Weinstien's protege' Bill Clinton.


idiots.

whitney said...

I think it's fairly shocking that they suspended her. It looks very bad for Twitter

Kate said...

"By suspending her, Twitter created evidence that that confirms suspicions that there is a conspiracy of silence surrounding the people who enabled Harvey Weinstein."

Also suspicions that Silicon Valley is too monopolizing and totalitarian, which leads to calls for Congress to Ma Bell the lot of them. @jack might be the densest CEO in business today.

Ray said...

Twitter is leftist / sjw / democratic biased, unfortunately.

I wish it was was Neutral.

#freemilo
#freetheothermccain

Ann Althouse said...

"Twitter also banned Marsha Blackburn for prolife comments. No cruel neutrality there."

It has reversed itself on her though. She's back. I'm planning to post on that soon.

Laslo Spatula said...

This is probably good for Rose. Buys some time.

I suspect that Rose will be having a backlash soon.

There will be people who do not want Their Story to just be an addendum to Her Story.

There are some that will feel shame for not saying anything previously, and resent her for Being The One.

There are some that will feel She Is Going Too Far.

There are some that will feel She Is Doing It Wrong.

She will be Trotsky.

I am Laslo.

gspencer said...

What is it about the truth that so frightens the left?

From Rose McGowan's intent to expose part of Hollywood's underbelly, to the discussion of black culture and absolute destruction it's had/has on black youth (esp. the males), to exposing the world-wide jihad to terrorize non-Muslims, all of which is expressly exhorted in the Quran, to the showing of what happens in an actual abortion (particularly late-terms ones where parts are clearly recognized for what they are), and lots more, the left wants silence and submission.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

My guess is that once the suspension was brought to the attention of a C level executive the immediate reactions was, "Oh Sh*t!"

Once again, I suspect I have slipped into a parallel dimension where I find myself agreeing with most of what Rose McGowan says.

fivewheels said...

Maybe I don't understand what Twitter's policy purports to be. Why is Trump the relevant example? He does attack people all the time, but isn't he attacked by others several orders of magnitude more often? Isn't that about 42 percent of Twitter right now, is personal attacks on Trump? What's the supposed rule here?

sparrow said...

Looks like Twitter's policy is still fluid and that may cause more problems and more scrutiny. They are not acting in their own interests by getting in the way of the story. It would be better for them to allow comments but flag them or disavow them in their own outlet.

rhhardin said...

Ass grabbing at a golden globes awards sounds right.

Ralph L said...

How does Twitter make money? I don't see ads.
Volume--like making change?

rhhardin said...

Twitter will do what's best for the leftist brand after the backlash damage to its own brand is considered.

Ray said...

Twitter has a Twitter has a Trust and Safety Council, what could go wrong?

#1984
#newspeak

Michael The Magnificent said...

This will be interesting to watch.

Hollywood has alienated the right with their in-your-face leftism and revisionist a-historical movies. And now they're alienating the left with their behind-your-back culture of sexual assault.

Pass the popcorn.

Rick said...

@benaffleck “GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT” you said that to my face. The press conf I was made to go to after assault. You lie.

People need to understand incoherence doesn't help them.

rehajm said...

Rules based systems where rules are clear avoid this kind of stuff...

I’m also glad someone else out there knows the meaning of the word loophole

tim in vermont said...

"Twitter will do what's best for the leftist brand after the backlash damage to its own brand is considered"

I think that you have that backwards.

whitney said...

By the way, people should go listen to that audio tape of Weinstein pressuring that girl that's in the New Yorker. It is shocking and disgusting and indicative of what he felt to be his rights

Assrat said...

>My guess is that once the suspension was brought to the attention of a C level executive the immediate reactions was, "Oh Sh*t!"

You're probably right, but for C Level Executive read Actual Human Employee.

My impression is that new media companies rely too heavily on software to perform admin tasks. The fact that nobody really trusts them is just icing on the cake.

Ray said...

Rose McGowan has an interesting past. I had never heard of her before this scandal.

Born in Italy to American parents (scotch Irish name)
Father worked for Microsoft
Brought up in children of god commune in Italy
Age 44
No kids
Probably had plastic surgery
Sex tape per the mirror

Laslo Spatula said...

Ben Affleck grabbing ass.

Back in the day, his buddy Kevin Smith had him play a character in "Mallrats", Shannon Hamilton, that was big on ass.

Gwen: Shannon Hamilton?
T.S. Quint: You know that guy?
Gwen: I went out with him once after we dated. He tried to screw me some place very uncomfortable.
T.S. Quint: What? Like the back of a Volkswagen?
Brodie: Sounds like his M.O.

Seems like Kevin wrote the part thinking of Ben.

I am Laslo.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Coming soon. Ben Affleck IS Buttman.

Ken B said...

Nothing certain except death and taxes and that Twitter is not neutral.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

There is an episode of South Park where a couple with a medical condition are looking for their long lost child. The child turns out to be Ben Affleck. The medical condition? They have buttocks for heads.

Bay Area Guy said...

Boy, I can hardly wait until the next Hollywood Leftist lectures us about any topic.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Tuns out the actual basket of deplorables resides in progressive Hillarywood.

Ken B said...

"It might be that Twitter has neutral rules and would suspend anybody who attacks anybody as specifically and severely as Rose McGowan attacked Ben Affleck"

How can that be true? Look at all the very specific attacks on Trump, or Clinton, from tens of thousands of users, day after day? Or now the attacks on Weinstein?

Assrat said...

>People need to understand incoherence doesn't help them.

Yeah, it's kind of amazing how badly a lot of people write. Trump's tweets are generally understandable, but we'll written they are not.

On the bright side, we can be pretty confident nobody is ghosting the tweets.

William said...

Rose McGowan has now achieved a certain amount of name recognition. It will be interesting to see if some Hollywood producer decides to cash in on that recognition and cast her as a crusading DA or some such part. My best guess is that her career is over and that Ben Affleck will continue to star in major motion pictures. Rose McGowan is Exhibit A in the case she's making against Hollywood.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Twitter suspends or kills off accounts I follow regularly--I don't follow a lot but I keep my follow count at an even number as that's the only way you can tell when one goes down!
The accounts I follow tend to be rightwing, libertarian, or neoreationary focused, and apparently all it takes to get a suspension is enough reports within a short period of time.

So, you know, "the system" is rigged against people who oppose the Left. If it takes Twitter mistreating an actress who happens to be attacking some big name Hollywood stars (who happen to be strongly Left themselves) to make people understand that, so be it.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Ben, This is Harvey..."

"Harvey? I don't know if we should be talking right now -- things are pretty sensitive..."

"Yeah. I hear your Ass Thing is becoming a problem."

"Like you're one to talk, Harvey. I know about all the girls that you made eat your asshole."

"See? That's the difference. They ate MY asshole. I didn't stick my fingers in THEIR asshole, Ben."

"I didn't stick my fingers up THAT many assholes, Harvey..."

"That's not what Damon says..."

"Hey! Some of those girls had fallen down, and I was just helping them up. Like a gentleman."

"You were helping them up by sticking your fingers up their assholes?"

"Sometimes a finger slipped, Harvey. It happens..."

"It's all falling apart, Ben. All of our hard work is being destroyed."

"I told you Rose was trouble, Harvey. She's not the kind of girl who's going to eat a guy's asshole and then keep her mouth shut."

"Now my wife is leaving me, and I never even made her eat my asshole."

"I think we need to get the attention drawn elsewhere, Harvey. You know what that means."

"You mean we leak the photos of Damon at that Dirty Diaper Party?"

"That is EXACTLY what I mean, Harvey..."

I am Laslo.

Khesanh 0802 said...

Interesting that Twitter gets away with censorship with nary a whimper from the sjw crowd.. They censored Marsha Blackburn's campaign opening statement because she said something disparaging (but true) about Planned Parenthood. Dan Henninger has some interesting things to say about the "Free Speech Wars" in todays WSJ. Link.

Excerpt:
"Attorney General Jeff Sessions recently announced in a speech at the Georgetown University Law School that the Justice Department will start intervening on the side of plaintiffs in campus free-speech cases.
The department has filed its first “statement of interest,” essentially an amicus brief, in a free-speech lawsuit brought against Georgia Gwinnett College, which has created free-speech zones, or “public forum areas,” requiring a college-approved reservation."

Eleanor said...

The first thing that made me believe Rose McGowan had been sexually assaulted was the stark contrast in the way she presents herself. She used to dress and do her hair in a very feminine style. Not overtly sex, just all-woman. The shaved head and the change in dress portray someone who is trying to hide her womanhood, something victims of sexual assault often do. Whatever else her coming forward accomplishes, I hope it helps her heal. Taking sides in this only makes Twitter look bad. It does nothing to help Weinstein.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Kind of like all the attention being paid to the Democrat corruption/IT scandal.

oh - no DNC-MSM interest at all.

Khesanh 0802 said...

@sparrow I had missed that Twitter reversed on Blackburn. Thanks for the info.

Lyle Smith said...

Someone grabbed my ass at a New Year's party a couple years ago. I have no idea who did it. Ben Affleck and Harvey Weinstein were not there to my knowledge.

Roughcoat said...

Re Rose McGowan: My best guess is that her career is over. . .

She's 44, her career is over, unless at this late stage she can make the transition into becoming a "serious" actress -- in which case her career will be severely diminished. Actresses have a small window for achieving success: late teens to late thirties. And their stock starts declining when they turn thirty.

It's a terrible business for women especially, but really for everyone. It is inhabited by the worst sort of people and it inevitably brings out the worst in good people. You're either one of the scumbags or you're an enabler of the scumbags, merely by taking part in the business and keeping silent when you witness -- as you inevitably will, frequently -- the scumbags behaving like the scum they are. I said in one of yesterday's threads that the entertainment business in general and the movie business in particular were depthless sinkholes of depravity. They are, and I speak from direct experience. You all really have no idea. The Weinstein revelations are tame stuff compared to what goes on, day in and day out.

William said...

Why is Twitter Rose McGowan's only platform? She's newsworthy. Why isn't she being interviewed by the Today show or being booked by the late night comics? .....I don't know that much about her. Apparently she used to be Marilyn Manson's girlfriend. It's easy to marginalize such a person as flaky and unreliable. But that's just the kind of person to raise a stink......The fact that she's saying these things on Twitter on not on the Jimmy Kimmel Show is further proof of how currupt they all are.

Chris N said...

Well, I don’t really trust the people who run twitter to make these kinds of decisions: They've already chosen a narrower band of activism and progressivism to filter decision-making:

That’s probably not good for business

Roughcoat said...

Hilarious - Hitler Learns About Harvey Weinstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViTSvgajzE0&t=6s

Gordon said...

As Roughcoat and others have written, the Weinstein stuff is tame.

I suspect Harvey is being thrown to the wolves in hopes that they will be sated and go away. There are much more serious stories in Hollywood. The people implicated in those will eagerly toss Harvey off a building to save themselves.

DKWalser said...

Maybe Affleck was sickened by Weinstein's behavior. Sickened, but not surprised.

DKWalser said...

Sickened because now his behavior would be fair game, too.

DKWalser said...

I'm pretty sure Ben felt very queasy inside when he heard Weinstein's behavior was in the news.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

The Weinstein revelations are tame stuff compared to what goes on, day in and day out.

Considering that they were openly joking about it I have no problem believing that whatsoever.

They were publicly joking about this situation. They says a lot about what they consider objectionable.

Chris N said...

And can someone please make a Transformers 9 with just visuals for the global market and Meryl Streep in it while a host of Slate writers drool over her performance?

From politics and political parties to media to Hollywood a lot of American models are undergoing rapid transformation. It’s not clear the results will be better and/or more stable, at least, from where I stand:

Gordon said...

Remember the Debbie Reynolds character played by Shirley McLaine in Postcards from the Edge? She hosted a party for all the beautiful people, during which she sang a song about how she might be old, but she was still here--meaning she was still in Hollywood and could still throw a party like that.

If one is addicted to the fame, the atmosphere, the adulation, then one can overlook a lot. But for whatever reason, Rose McGowan ain't still there. She's not getting hit on by producers now. She still has fans, though, and if her career is over, why not take the shots? It might feel good to get a few of your own in on guys like Affleck and Weinstein. Twitter lets her do that, directly and cost free.

Unknown said...

I am a little surprised ( well not really ) that she is attacking the "golden boys". If I am not mistaken many women lookednthe other way and it was mostly women pimping them out. An actual much more disgusting role.

gg6 said...

Rose McGowan is beginning to strike me as just another garden variety shark jumper. Someone get the hook, please?

Darrell said...

Consider yourself hooked gg6.
Bye bye.

Darrell said...

Surprised Affleck didn't say "Blow me!"
Like usual.

walter said...

I wonder if she told Marilyn Manson..

tcrosse said...

This cries out for Rose McGowan. NSFW.
Coming of Age

Birches said...

Rose McGowan is a little crazy, but I might be crazy too if I'd been raped my Weinstein and no one cared for all these years...

Yancey Ward said...

Time Warner has a ton of money at stake tied to Ben Affleck and the upcoming Justice League money. I imagine quite a bit of pressure is being applied to try to defend him.

walter said...

Ben has the addiction "get out of jail" card..

neverboard said...

Rose directed her followers to attack another twitter user. People get banned for that action. She was suspended. Special treatment. BTW the victim was on her side of justice; she's just too manic to see it.

YoungHegelian said...

Of course, who runs Twitter now -- guys who came from Google.

Google is now essentially the in-house IT shop for the Democratic machine in all its forms. McGowan could possibly start an avalanche of disclosures out of Hollywood & that could jeopardize relationships carefully cultivated between the Dems & Hollywood players for years. Hollywood is a big source of money for the Dems.

Oh, & by the way, you remember the IT security company Crowdstrike which handled the investigation on the DNC email server in lieu of the FBI. They claimed the server was hacked by the Russkies, but never offered public proof. Guess who's one of their major funders?

In July 2015, Google invested in the company's Series C funding round, which in total raised $100 million.

Like I said, the Dems' in-house IT.

Big Mike said...

The allegations against Affleck prove that Donald Trump was right -- when you're rich and famous they let you grab 'em by the pussy, but emphatically not by the crack of their a**.

walter said...

Crack in the facade..

n.n said...

"=" or Pro-Choice policy.

Martin said...

Twitter and Google hide behind "terms of service" and claims of impartiality while they are actually censoring content for political and personal purposes. This is absolutely, incontrovertibly clear.

Check out the first 12 minutes of this video, your skin will crawl--
https://youtu.be/BSAoitd1BTQ

tim in vermont said...

Al Gore sites on the board of Google. He got incredibly rich from them, built up many times the wealth his dear old pappy got for being Armand Hammer's bought and paid for Senator from Tennessee. Did you know that Al's middle name is 'A' that it doesn't stand for anything? Not even Armand? Nope, nuthin'!

Ken B said...

I am less enamored of this woman than Althouse. Here's a recent tweet of hers

"I told the head of your studio that HW raped me. Over & over I said it. He said it hadn’t been proven. I said I was the proof."

She's the proof? Really? If she says it, it's proven?

If only there were a Law Prof Emerita we could ask, does that make any sense to you?

Ken B said...

"Did you know that Al's middle name is 'A' that it doesn't stand for anything? Not even Armand? Nope, nuthin'!"

It stands for synecdoche.

Unknown said...

She posted a phone number on the site.

McGowan is becoming Hollywood's version of Mattress Girl.

She's generalized from one guy's actions to smearing business associates - like Bezos.

She might have been pretty once, but her attempts to incite a mob are ugly.

vanderleun said...

Well, to be fair, Bezos is another pugugly troll that would need and use money and power to get laid.

tcrosse said...

So McGowan is playing John the Baptist to Streep's Christ.

Ken B said...

Twitter says she was suspended for posting a private phone number. She should have been. Wasn’t Althouse upset when CNN doxxed someone?

This woman is beginning to sound like Abigail Williams to me. As Althouse put it, on fire. That is, an escalating series of charges against a widening circle of people, imprecations, and promises of more to come. Doesn’t that set off any alarms?

Christy said...

McGowan was with Robert Rodriguez, one of Weinstein's directors, maybe a decade ago. I suspect she knows whereof she inarticulately speaks.