December 10, 2017

"How did CNN end up aggressively hyping such a spectacularly false story? They refuse to say."

"Many hours after their story got exposed as false, the journalist who originally presented it, Congressional reporter Manu Raju, finally posted a tweet noting the correction. CNN’s PR Department then claimed that 'multiple sources' had provided CNN with the false date. And Raju went on CNN, in muted tones, to note the correction, explicitly claiming that 'two sources' had each given him the false date on the email, while also making clear that CNN did not ever even see the email, but only had sources describe its purported contents... [H]ow did 'multiple sources' all misread the date on this document, in exactly the same way, and toward the same end, and then feed this false information to CNN? It is, of course, completely plausible that one source might innocently misread a date on a document. But how is it remotely plausible that multiple sources could all innocently and in good faith misread the date in exactly the same way, all to cause to be disseminated a blockbuster revelation about Trump/Russia/WikiLeaks collusion? This is the critical question that CNN simply refuses to answer. In other words, CNN refuses to provide the most minimal transparency to enable the public to understand what happened here."

Glenn Greenwald, at The Intercept, "The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened."

105 comments:

rhhardin said...

The sources have a common source.

SeanF said...

The Trump administration is playing the MSM like fools. They know they have leakers, so they're planting false information in order to a) identify the leakers themselves; and b) discredit the MSM, at least as far as this type of reporting goes.

It is becoming a "boy who cried wolf" situation - before long, it will be impossible for the MSM to report things from anonymous sources, because no-one will believe them anymore.

I'm not entirely sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, to be honest.

wendybar said...

Thus...this is why the American people do not trust the liars in the Main Stream Media. We are on to their distortions and lies. They are just another arm of the Progressive left much like the IRS and FBI are....

Tommy Duncan said...

Old habits die slowly. Historically, the media has been able to paper over exposures like this one. But the new media is making that papering-over much more difficult.

The days of "front page news" followed by "page 13 retraction" are quickly dying, particularly as competing networks and news sources gleefully point out the mistakes/bias/lies.

Unknown said...

> The sources have a common source.

Conservative Treehouse says Adam Schiffty gave them information planted by a leak squad. Maybe sessions actually took action 4 months ago.

Michael K said...

There is a theory that the date was wrong to identify the leaker(s).

Probably Adam Schiff who is a despicable person and a pencil necked twerp.

rehajm said...

Anonymous sources is the doosh sitting in the next cubicle next to whoever writes the story, then all the journolists run with it. Haven't we all figured out the game by now? Not that it matters since they only need to scare two GOPes in the Senate, which is an obtainable goal.

dreams said...

Trump keeps on winning and I'm still not tired of all the...

Anonymous said...

“Michael J. Erickson” is an alias for Lucy Ramirez.

dreams said...

"Probably Adam Schiff who is a despicable person and a pencil necked twerp."

He is despicable and unfortunately a typical crooked democrat.

Owen said...

"Fisking" became a word, I think, at the time of Rathergate in 2004, when "fake but accurate" became a deathless phrase meaning laughably obvious incompetence and bias in covering what was supposed to be the biggest story ever. I think "Fisking" means "to fact-check some so-called authority on a story, with multiple online commenters at blogs rapidly exposing errors and fallacies." Something like that.

rhhardin said...

Fisking is an interlinear translation of an article.

Curious George said...

How? C'mon. That's a feature. Not a bug.

Where's Inga?

Curious George said...

How? The same way that CNN showed the Moore letter in black and white to hite the different color inks.

Wilbur said...

It's really pretty simple. Trump is winning because the opposition has nothing to sell that enough of the public will buy. So they go with Trump Is Evil, 24/7. The public, especially those who don't particularly like Trump, can see that he's not what they say he is, further ruining their credibility.

Levi Starks said...

I think maybe someone needs to pull them over and do a sobriety test. They may just be too drunk with rage to operate a communications vehicle.

Unknown said...

At the bar you get to know pretty quickly who the habitual liars are. Lies about sex, lies about ex-wives, lies about money, lies about others: you also get to know which ones think that they have convinced you of their lies, and which ones actually began to believe their lies, at least when they've had a few drinks.

Sometimes the lies are harmless, sometimes they are funny. Sometimes alcohol makes the funny lies even funnier. Your consumption of alcohol, theirs, or a combination of both: at times it is remarkably easy to envision six-foot invisible rabbits.

Then there are the mean-spirited lies, by mean-spirited liars. Some are mean-spirited by nature; some are mean-spirited by alcohol, impotence and anger. Accordingly, there are a lot of angry six-foot invisible rabbits at the bar. Sometimes.

Occasionally a fight arises out of a particular lie. The lie is too egregious, honor has been questioned, then: a scuffle in the alley. A roundhouse punch may be landed, someone may be tackled against a dumpster. Sometimes it is the liar fighting to defend his lie: some people are willing to risk harm rather than lose face. If they win the fight then somehow that means their lie is the truth, seems to be the thinking. I may be wrong on that; human nature and the truth is a complex thing. And sometimes people's six-foot invisible rabbits get involved.

The scuffle in the alley behind the bar might be the closest remnant left of the settling of things by pistol at dawn. Maybe settling things by pistol at dawn kept more people honest. Again: I may be wrong on that. Human nature and the truth is a complex thing. And no one wants to see the six-foot invisible rabbit shot by accident.

- james james

Original Mike said...

"But how is it remotely plausible that multiple sources could all innocently and in good faith misread the date in exactly the same way, all to cause to be disseminated a blockbuster revelation about Trump/Russia/WikiLeaks collusion?"

This has been going on for a long time. In the lead up to the Iraq War (November 2002) I watched a Karl Rove talk on CSPAN and then read a front page report of the event in the New York Times. The NYT published a blatant lie regarding something Rove said (which made him look despicable). The correction appeared several days later on page A29. The details are too long to explain, but what they reported was so far from what he actually said it could not have been a mistake. The scales fell from my eyes that day. I haven't believed media reporting in politcal matters since.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Where's Inga?

You have to say her name three times and she will appear. Like Beetlejuice

:-D

PB said...

It's almost as if there is a conspiracy to remove a sitting President by any means necessary. The real collusion story.

cronus titan said...

The "how" is straightforward. CNN and its sources wanted it to be true, so therefore they reported it. IT is no more complex than that. It would be interesting to review all corrections and retractions since November 2016 to see how the media has compromised its integrity in its zeal to overthrow the government. Nearly every correction/retraction goes back to anonymous sources. Look at how Brian Ross' fake news was breathlessly reported by the media despite it being obvious on its face that it was wrong. But they wanted it to be true to hurt the President, so they charged forward without a moment's thought.

Original Mike said...

"You have to say her name three times and she will appear. Like Beetlejuice"

OMG, she's in my bedroom! How do I get her to disappear!?

cubanbob said...

PB said...
It's almost as if there is a conspiracy to remove a sitting President by any means necessary. The real collusion story."

Bingo! But not almost, it's actual. Nixon again.

Owen said...

Rhhardin: nice correction, thanks. I hadn't realized that Fisking has its own Wikipedia entry, immortalizing Robert Fisk.

FIDO said...

If they find the leakers who violated their oaths, they should be going to jail for the sentencing maximum. Just to send a message to the Deep State "You are not immune."

Minot is nice this year. Think they have a FCC out there?

Michael K said...

When I want to know more about a story that has paranoid undertones, I go to Conservative Tree House.

Routine daily news is not their forte. I spent a whole day reading the site about the Trayvon Martin case and they had stuff that I never saw anywhere else.

The whole Trump story is a bonanza for them. Especially the Mueller "investigation: and the Hillary server story.

Big Mike said...

SeanF echoes my first thought, which is that the leak was planted by people working for Trump to deliberately discredit CNN and the others. But CNN has (thus far) declined to burn their sources (if plural it truly was!) which they would do in a heartbeat if the sources were Trump allies or on Trump’s payroll.

Sebastian said...

Of course, it is not "remotely plausible" that all anti-Trumpers would innocently make the same mistake in the same direction again and again. Has been that way since forever. The only difference now is that the prog MSM and their feeders are more exposed. But it won't stop them. They are without shame and keep their eye on the ultimate goal. Just as the Reckoning doesn't actually reckon with the sources of prog immorality and the degrading of the culture, the "humiliation" of the lying media will make no difference: they will double down, degrade the public sphere, trash the very notion of news, the better to transvalue all values in their pursuit of victory. It's all part of their earth-scorching strategy.

Drago said...

If you think LLR Chuck is going to allow you to besmirch the honor of CNN without a fight then you have not learned anything over the last year.

Drago said...

"But CNN has (thus far) declined to burn their sources (if plural it truly was!) which they would do in a heartbeat if the sources were Trump allies..."

CNN has ZERO sources that are Trump allies.

Period.

Bay Area Guy said...

The Get Trump Squad got very excitable on this one! They almost got Donald, Jr! A nefarious e-mail, that absolutely, unquestionably, undeniably established that Young Don - the surrogate mouthpiece for his father - had served as a cut-out between Putin and Wikileaks - before the election!

But, darnit, missed it by that much.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The Russian-Trump colluded story is bunk, so they need to thread the needle.

CNN is the Clinton News Network filled with hacks who all donate to, and vote for, democrats. Democrats are unable to leave their bias at the door. /they are blind to their bias AND that they don't think being a democrat hack is a problem. They assume it is their duty to "resist".

"Resist" = wear masks and lie.

Jim said...

Michael K 8:58. Truth. They were all over the Martin case.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Spam e-mail that Don Junior never read that appeared in his inbox after the wikileaks story was already published.

Proof! - Don Jr is in bed with the Russians! Trust me folks - the hivemind left believe all these bogus stories. Wish-facts and lies pimped by the "hands up don't shoot" -- "It was the video" media, are swallowed whole by the hivemind consumers.

Mattman26 said...

Good for Greenwald for giving this sorry state of affairs the attention it deserves.

donald said...

They’re spending so much time shoving apples up each other’s asses that they don’t have time to do actual journalism.

These people at CNN and MSNBC and CBS are not journalists. They are propagandists.

rehajm said...

CNN has ZERO sources that are Trump allies

Yes, this. Plus, if you're CNN why risk exposing the scheme using an actual anonymous source when your fake anonymous source works exactly the same with less risk?

Unknown said...

> I go to Conservative Tree House.

Thanks to Michael K I started reading it, and he speaks the truth.

Hagar said...

I have read Robert Fisk's "The Great War for Civilization" and thought it well worth reading for what Robert Fisk himself has seen and heard directly, but note that Fisk has a very bad case of English underclass syndrome and is careless about accepting other people's left wing views and reports without verification.

Amadeus 48 said...


If it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.

Glenn resists the obvious source of this problem, namely, that the media are more interested in attacking and perhaps unseating Trump than they are giving the American people the news.

Sad.

Marty Keller said...

Pouty little foot-stamping Inga hasn't shown up on this thread yet because she(?) probably works for CNN.

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cronus titan said...

When Trump used the phrase "The Swamp," I thought it was a clever rhetorical turn. It has become apparent that the Beltway establishment talks to like-minded people only, including anonymous sources, confirming their biases. It is inconceivable to the media that someone may not share their opinions. If you block out anyone who has a different opinion or fact, this is what you get.

Mueller runs his team the same way -- the charitable view is that they are so immersed in like-minded people only they find the allegation that stacking their team with Democratic Party operatives is a problem to be incomprehensible.

It turns out that there in fact a Swamp.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

How? They are hacks. Pro-democrat propagandists and hacks. They are not journalists.

Some Seppo said...

How? You ask how? Maybe it's because CNN and its ilk are engaging in Actual Malice.

In a legal sense, "actual malice" has nothing to do with ill will or disliking someone and wishing him harm. Rather, courts have defined "actual malice" in the defamation context as publishing a statement while either

knowing that it is false; or

acting with reckless disregard for the statement's truth or falsity.

Original Mike said...

"Pouty little foot-stamping Inga hasn't shown up on this thread yet because she(?) probably works for CNN."

She's busy scouring the interwebs looking for her next "news" fix.

Seriously, when do the lefties start to feel betrayed by the media?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

CNN hacks knew it was false and hoped it would fly.

Pile on all the lies and hope something sticks. apologize later. No one gets fired.

Original Mike said...

Blogger Some Seppo said..."How? You ask how? Maybe it's because CNN and its ilk are engaging in Actual Malice."

That's exactly what's going on.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

They know they have leakers, so they're planting false information in order to a) identify the leakers themselves; and b) discredit the MSM

Trump is a billionaire, promoter, real estate developer, hotelier, reality TV star, etc, etc, etc. I would think that he would be pretty adept in the art of selective leaking. The reason the MSM is unable to bring him down is that he outclasses them in every way.

Always remember, reporters are dumb rich kids who couldn't get into law school.

steve uhr said...

CNN should stick to what it's good at. Endless panels of the same talking heads saying the same thing infinitum.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Always remember, reporters are dumb rich kids who couldn't get into law school.

And they were all going to get richer with Hillary at the helm.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

which they would do in a heartbeat if the sources were Trump allies or on Trump’s payroll

A couple of layers of cutouts fixes this problem.

Sebastian said...

"Seriously, when do the lefties start to feel betrayed by the media?" Not as long as the right people have power in the MSM, as long as they are useful tools in the culture war, as long as they scorch the earth for the cause, as long as the fakery serves a purpose.

There's no betrayal: the MSM do what the left wants. Lies and deception are weapons.

MacMacConnell said...

"They know they have leakers, so they're planting false information in order to a) identify the leakers themselves; and b) discredit the MSM"

Actually, a false date may be the product of the on going investigation of leaks coming from secret behind door Select Committee meetings. Gee I'd love to see Alan Shiff indicted.

Derek Kite said...

Maybe you are framing this wrong. It isn't that CNN wants to tell the truth and this is an aberration. CNN wants to tell a story. If it is true, that is a bonus, but not the important consideration.

Anonymous said...

Acting like a tabloid is a good explanation for why CNN got burned. CNN never verified the document, they just took two people's word for it and ran with it. Did those two sources lie to CNN, did they both have a doctored version somebody on Trump's side planted with the expectation it would be leaked, or did they both just happen to misread the date in the same way?

When media rely on anonymous sources, they assume the risk of looking like fools should the source not be credible. Today's media is far too witless and unimaginative to realize that Trump may either be deliberately having people leak inaccurate information or distributing fake information he intends his enemies in government to leak. Trump's tag of "fake news" takes on a whole lot more meaning if he knows there's a deliberate operation to feed the media fake news to destroy their credibility and/or smoke out the leakers.

Media should get out of the business of relying on anonymous sources, and they should also insist on seeing and authenticating any documents before they put out stories based on said documents.

Gahrie said...

I still can't get over the gall of Greenwald somehow considering himself a moral arbitrator of behavior on the internet.

Did he ever admit and apologize for using sock puppets?

tim in vermont said...

Greenwald has been excellent, demolishing the Trump tower Alpha bank story, even though the Kool-Aide drinkers still believe it. I worked in the comms industry and Greenwald nailed it. The story like came from some political troll who had access to Trump properties DNS logs and completely misinterpreted them, as Greenwald showed. Trump then changed his DNS settings and ISP, apparently, as anybody is still free to do in America, anyways, and they claimed that he was taking steps to hide his activities.

These guys are deranged. Anybody searching comms logs for 'Trump' and then going to the media should have been fired immediately.

Bad Lieutenant said...

I'm not entirely sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, to be honest.


MSM just had 8 years of wolf to cry. When they saw wolf they cried "Kitty!" Unfit for purpose.

Some Seppo said...

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Trump is a billionaire, promoter, real estate developer, hotelier, reality TV star, etc, etc, etc. I would think that he would be pretty adept in the art of selective leaking. The reason the MSM is unable to bring him down is that he outclasses them in every way.


Same as that "B" actor Reagan.

Rick said...

That CNN never saw the email seems like preemptive strategic ignorance to me. Recall CBS' possession of the Rathergate memo and its subsequent release exonerated Bush. If CNN doesn't have this email they can't be forced to release it.

MayBee said...

Here's the thing about CNN: they didn't just get the story wrong. They spent the whole day analyzing how bad this is for Trump. In their awful, not-new anymore way, they harped on it all day long. They even talked about how Congress didn't know who this guy who sent it was. His name and company were on the email! Congress didn't need to speculate, they didn't need to tell CNN they were investigating, and CNN could have called or emailed the guy (if they would've seen the email). Eventually someone reported the right information but CNN took a long time to even mention that on their broadcast. They had a day of speculation and "analysis" and recriminations, then an hour or so of not mentioning it, then a brief "the date is actually the 14th" report. No hours of correction as there had been hours of recrimination. No hours of "how wrong we were" analysis.

But the main thing is, CNN has stopped reporting and started trying to create news events of the day. And that's what they were doing with this.
If they really want to learn something, they could learn their news controversy model isn't good. And it isn't news.

Scott said...

Well, I'm just waiting for a law to be passed that makes any incorrect fact in a story using 'anonymous sources' proof of actual malice.

Raising the fine for defamation and slander to 1000 dollars per click on the story or viewer of that program would also be helpful. Or at a minimum bar news organizations from having insurance pay for their court settlements.

If that fails, bring back dueling.

buwaya said...

Its not unfit for purpose.
Its just that they have a different purpose.

This is not a big loss to the MSM/CNN as they will not be excoriated by general-market media. ABC and NBC and such will not be crowing about the CNN "nevermind".

The story gave them a day of propaganda material. Another day will bring something else, and it doesnt matter what the facts are.

You are not dealing with a free press, you are looking at the behaviour of a ministry of propaganda. It takes an effort to reframe your response to what you hear from them, but it must be done.

PackerBronco said...

Blogger Scott said...
Well, I'm just waiting for a law to be passed that makes any incorrect fact in a story using 'anonymous sources' proof of actual malice.


I wouldn't go that far, but it seems to me that if you use an anonymous source for a fake news story and then refuse to divulge that source when it's clear they were feeding you a false story, it would be evidence of malice.

Otto said...

It's a ploy by Sessions to out Congressional leakers. That's why CNN is being coy , they do not want to out their Congressional leaker(s). If they do the DOJ will bring criminal charges against some people in congress. Yhis is a cat and mouse game.

Original Mike said...

This was Chuck Todd's accusatory take this morning on MTP: "Trump got emails offering documents after WikiLeaks made them public."

So? What? But in Chuck's world this is damning. And no mention whatsoever of CNN's "blunder".

It's instructive/depressing to contemplate the world view of those who get their "news" from these guys. No wonder the Inga's of the world are so agitated.

Comanche Voter said...

Let's just say that CNN stands for Creative Negative NewsNetwork.

And yes Adam Schiff (who unfortunately is my local Congress Critter) is a pencil necked twerp who "can't handle the truth" because he prefers to deal in calumny and prevarication.

And yet young Adam is one of the Democrats shining stars. Back in the day when Obamacare was about to be or had been rolled out the Democrats decided to try a "town hall strategy" to explain Obamacare. Young Adam was selected to run the trial balloon up. He had a town hall in a public square in Alhambra California. Despite busloads of SEIU members being delivered to the site, along with a large supporting cast, things didn't go well for Adam at the town hall. It didn't help much that the SEIU crowd "punched the clock" at 8 pm and headed back to their buses en masse. After that debacle, the Dems gave up on the town hall strategy. If their best and brightest (hard to imagine Schiff being described as that--but there you go) couldn't handle it, better to foresake town halls.

Original Mike said...

Blogger buwaya said..."This is not a big loss to the MSM/CNN as they will not be excoriated by general-market media. ABC and NBC and such will not be crowing about the CNN "nevermind"."

Yep. That's exactly what I just witnessed on Meet The Press. No mention whatsoever. In fact, an attempt (weak, but they didn't have much to work with) to generate a charge against Trump with the email.

Richard said...

Blogger Original Mike said...
"You have to say her name three times and she will appear. Like Beetlejuice"

OMG, she's in my bedroom! How do I get her to disappear!?


Get her to say her name backwards and she goes back to the 5th dimension.

Original Mike said...

"Get her to say her name backwards and she goes back to the 5th dimension."

I gave her cab money and she left.

Drago said...

"Get her to say her name backwards and she goes back to the 5th dimension."

With Marilyn McCoo?

wholelottasplainin said...

Original Mike said...
"Get her to say her name backwards and she goes back to the 5th dimension."
*****************************

Better be careful: Inga's name backwards is the Agni, the Hindu god of fire. He is also is "considered as the mouth of the gods and goddesses." (wiki)

I guess the mouthy part fits.

Larry J said...

If Roy Moore is elected to the Senate next Tuesday, it'll be in large part because a lot of people have learned to distrust anything the read or hear from the press. The press had brought this on itself.

Yancey Ward said...

CNN was the first mover here, and I think the followers like CBS made up the sources who "confirmed" the CNN story. Of course, I think it about 50% probable that the CNN guy was told by his source the real date, and that the source suggested he might ignore the date to the lie half-way around the world before the truth got up to take a morning piss.

Yancey Ward said...

And, of course, Inga who was writing comment after comment about this CNN story vanished from that thread the instant CNN retracted the key point. And she has not commented in this thread either, which is abundant evidence of her intellectual honesty- not a single mea culpa to be found that I have seen in two days. Maybe this is her opportunity to prove me wrong- I might have missed it in one of the other threads.

Sebastian said...

"not a single mea culpa" Progs won't be guilt-tripped into guilt-trips. They don't do shame. They are not sorry, except about losing--and in this case, about being exposed for the lying liars they are.

Bad Lieutenant said...
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Bad Lieutenant said...

And she has not commented in this thread either, which is abundant evidence of her intellectual honesty- not a single mea culpa to be found that I have seen in two days.

Musashi 2017:

The primary thing when you leftists take a lie in your mouths is your intention to slime the enemy, whatever the means. Whenever you argue, reason, analyze, or disprove the enemy's positions, you must slime the enemy in the same movement. It is essential to attain this. If you think only of arguing, reasoning, analyzing or disproving the enemy, you will not be able actually to slime him.

n.n said...

Appeal to authority. The authority is dead. Long live the authority.

Original Mike said...

Just watched the CNN video embedded in the Greenwald article. This was good:

Manu Raju: "Now, the timeline is important here."

Why yes, Manu. Yes it is! LOL

Original Mike said...

More comic gold. From Friday's decryption key thread (which I hadn't had a chance to read in it's entirety until now) Inga reposts from Redstate:

"During his Wednesday hearing, Donald Trump Jr. referred to his exchanges with WikiLeaks as being the same as communicating with CNN or NBC.

And I can’t even begin to express how misguided and ignorant that is.”

You can say that again!

Robert Cook said...

"Routine daily news is not their forte. I spent a whole day reading the site about the Trayvon Martin case and they had stuff that I never saw anywhere else."

If Conservative Treehouse "had stuff (you) never saw anyplace else," how can you be certain this "stuff" was accurate?

Original Mike said...

"If Conservative Treehouse "had stuff (you) never saw anyplace else," how can you be certain this "stuff" was accurate?"

Because it wasn't at CNN?

Bad Lieutenant said...

If Counterpunch "had stuff (you) never saw anyplace else," how can you be certain this "stuff" was accurate?

FIFY Cookie

Original Mike said...

I've forgotten. Which news organization was it that doctored George (White Hispanic) Zimmerman's 911 recording?

Jim at said...

No wonder the Inga's of the world are so agitated.

You misspelled 'stupid.'

Jim at said...

Which news organization was it that doctored George (White Hispanic) Zimmerman's 911 recording?

That was NBC.

Original Mike said...

Ah, yes. It was NBC.. I bet Chuck Todd was proud.

Original Mike said...

"You misspelled 'stupid.'"

Sorry. I've turned off autocorrect.

ccscientist said...

Even if the earlier date were true, how can you be guilty of anything due to someone SENDING YOU AN EMAIL? I am sure people send politicians and journalists unsolicited crap all the time, true, false, and useless. How can the recipient be guilty of anything?

Original Mike said...

@Unknown - The talking heads claimed that the Trump camp was required to alert the FBI. The fact they didn't was a crime.

n.n said...

From Water Closet to Press Here. I wonder if Deep Plunger is behind both conspiracies.

guilty of anything due to someone SENDING YOU AN EMAIL

Prima facie evidence.

Prove that your are not a white... hole. The universal source of creative destruction.

Original Mike said...

In fact, there was a fellow on Manu Raju's twitter thread claiming that the Trump camp was required to alert the FBI to the email they received on Sept 14 because...well, just because.

Quaestor said...

Better be careful: Inga's name backwards is the Agni, the Hindu god of fire.

Angi is also Latin, lambs — a group of foolish, easily deceived quadrupeds not noted for critical thinking powers.

Michael The Magnificent said...

Even if the earlier date were true, how can you be guilty of anything due to someone SENDING YOU AN EMAIL?

Inga also thinks that because Trump has taken out loans from Deutsche Bank, and Russians were using the same bank to launder money, that this somehow proved Trump must be guilty of something.

No amount of logic is going to break through that kind of self delusion.

I have a co-worker who hears Andrea Mitchell say that Trump "may" have done this, and the Russians "may" have done that, but somewhere between the stereo speaker and his brain "may" gets replaced with "has." Same kind of self delusion, which I don't waste any of my time on.

Original Mike said...

"Same kind of self delusion, which I don't waste any of my time on."

Wise choice. You can't fix stupid.

Yancey Ward said...

Boy, the collapse of that CNN story may well have killed Inga- not a peep out of her.

Original Mike said...

Inga's been in other threads today, but she'll never acknowledge that her smoking gun has come a cropper. Classic Inga.

Steven said...

What Trump really should do is sue for libel. CNN either acted with malice, or was deceived by its sources. The discovery in a libel case would allow Trump to demand CNN give him the names of the alleged sources so they can be subpoenaed.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Not just CNN, by the way, 3 networks ran the story! All with independent confirmation, naturally.
Why can't they explain how it happened?
My theory is that they got the info come either a high ranking Dem (Schiff, someone in the intelligence committee, etc) it a staffer of some such Dem.
The real question is: how many OTHER stories are these sources responsible for and/or responsible for confirming?

The Media is garbage, and their ridiculous bias and agenda could not be more plain to see.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Funny how all the innocent, explainable errors just happen to break one way, huh?
I mean, what are the odds?!

narciso said...

Its in their nature:
www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/a_time_for_war_the_gathering_storm.html

Michael K said...

narciso, good article.

We've been listening to the audio of Bossie and Lewandowski's book. These guys are almost as tough as Trump.

The Deep State is at war but they are not going to win unless they want to unleash civil war,

Steven said...

My theory is that they got the info come either a high ranking Dem (Schiff, someone in the intelligence committee, etc) it a staffer of some such Dem.

We shouldn't need to theorize. Which is why Trump should sue CNN, and, yes, any other network/paper/outlet that claimed independent corroboration.